The following is a letter I wrote to the Sunday schoolteacher at church. I invite your comments.
Hal,
Several years ago, my wife, (Gigi), saw a program on public televison celebrating the life and works of a unique author, Patrick O'brian. His collection of novels written over the course of several decades, (1950's-90's), tell the tale of a British naval captain, Jack Aubrey, and his particular friend, Stephen Maturin, ship's surgeon and natural philosopher, in the early part of the 19th century. The entirety of the work was 20 and 1/2 novels. The last, was never completed before O'brian's death in the nineties. This program cited the reverant testimonies of famous characters such as Walter Cronkite and William F. Buckley, to name a few. You may be familiar with the Hollywood screen adaptation from a few years ago called "Master and Commander, The Far Side of the World". The movie starred Russel Crowe and it received excellent reviews. I enjoyed it very much, myself.
Gigi was so impressed by the PBS documentary that she found a collection of the "Aubrey, Maturin" novels on line, and purchased them for my birthday. I have loved reading them and have developed a rather keen interest in the sea and sailing; not to mention, I've always been a bit of a history buff. I am almost done with the set, and would highly recommend them to anyone, especially anyone who appreciates good literature. The author, (O'brian), reveals an extemely sharp and intuative mind and has stunned me on several occasions with his insight into the spiritual realm, even though I otherwise have no evidence to consider him a believer, or not, through the telling of his tales.
In light of the Sunday school teachings of recent weeks, I would like to share a quote from one of the books entitled,"The Letter of Marque". I will first set up the scene and then let my imaginations fly. This was what I had in mind when I asked for your e-mail address after class. Of all the good folks I've met at FBC, I felt you had the most receptive and analytical mind. Should what I have to share not amount to much in your estimation, I thank you for receiving it and humoring me. However, if you see where I'm going, please go with me.
Through a series of adventures, one of our heros, Dr. Stephen Maturin, finds himself in a new fangled contraption, a hot-air balloon. As would most anyone, he enjoys himself immensely as he sees the world from an entirely new perspective. However, the experience being what we now understand it to be, he rests and considers amid the peace and tranquility in the bottom of the wicker car with nothing but clear blue sky to be observed.
" . . . . .During that long day he had been strongly aware of time, if only because he had to avoid being benighted on the mountainside: now there was no time. That is to say, there was succession, in that a gesture or a thought followed its predecessor, but there was no sense of duration. He and Diana might have been floating there for hours or even for days. "
In Genesis God created the earth in seven days. "And God said, ' let there be light,' and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he seperated the light from the darkness. God called the light' day and the darkness he called 'night.' And there was evening and there was morning - the first day." (Gen. 1, 3-5, NIV)
". . . . . . And God said, "let there be lights in the sky to seperate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth.' And it was so. God made two great lights - the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, to govern the day and the night, and to seperate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. And there was evening, and there was morning - the fourth day." (Gen 1:14 - 19, NIV)
Unless I am mistaken, God created light on day one, but didn't create the sun until day four. It seems that something must be considered here. we know that the earth revolves around the sun. In the amount of time it takes the earth to rotate on its axis 365 times, it makes one revolution of the sun. At the same time the moon revolves around the earth some 13 times and appears to us in waxing and waning phases, as Gen 1:14 says, " and let them be signs to mark the seasons and days and years, . . . . " Hadn't God, on day 4, established the clock? Was not time set into motion that day? Was not time, therefore, an earthly enterprise established for the coming of man on day six? No other part of creation, to my reasoning has any knowledge of it. Was not this from God to man, on earth?
In order to futher clarify, may I ask of you; did time exist before day 4? Does time exist anywhere else other than on earth where the clock is witnessed? Can anything else in all of creation even consider time?
If I am in a hot-air baloon with Stephen Maturin, and "loose track of time'" I have to concede that time is only perceived when the clock can be viewed. The never changing crystal blue of a summer sky gives no indication of the lapse of minutes or hours. I perceive succession, but lose duration.
If I am a space traveler who's dashboard "earth" clock is on the fritz, I have no traversing of the sun from horizon to horizon to inform me of the fulfillment of a day. Nor do I have the accumulation of those days to count telling me that a year has passed. Haven't I then lost duration. There was no yesterday and there will be no tomorrow. I eventually lose thoughts of before, and ultimately have no consideration of after. It is always today, it is always now.
Scripture gives visuals of these things in the concepts of heaven and hell. Is not heaven represented as being beyond the perceptable heavens: removed from the earth, away from the human experience? Is not the clock an earthly device? We speak of eternity as being forever, but isn't forever a reference to a calendar? Perhaps, heaven is that place of the eternal existence with God, where there is no yesterday and no tomorrow. Perhaps being in the presence of the glory of the Lord is about being with him now.
Hell is refered to scripturally as being down, under the earth. Wouldn't it make sense, that hell is an experience of everlasting duration? " I've been here soooooooooooo long, and I've got even farther to go. Can you hear the gnashing of teeth? The immature mind cannot conceive of worshipping God through eternity. He eventually concludes that even that wonderous joy would eventually lose its appeal. After all forever is a very long time. But given these thoughts, I conclude that heaven is time not. while hell is nothing but time. Our young receivers of the gospel messages of hope for eternal existence with their creator, I fear, will fail to understand what eternity means. They will confuse heaven with hell. And who wants to go there?
When God began creation light was created. I deduce that that light came from God. He turned it on and turned it off. How long was it on? I mean in hours. Remember, there was no clock. I can't answer that question, and I don't think you can either. Imagine, if you will, that it resembled an equivelant of a billion years as counted by the solar, lunar earthly clock. What differnce would it matter? The light came on and the light went off afterwards. Day one.
The new heaven and the new earth will be a place where the sun and moon have been removed. God will eliminate darkness. There will only be the light of God. No before, no after, only now.
Heaven cannot, given this reasoning, be a succession of AHA moments. It is an AHA moment without beginning and without end, right now.
Let me know what you think, please.
In Christ,
Joe
P.S. : more to come if you're interested.
Hey Joseph, Here is how I see it... Time is a creation of God, like gravity, or inertia, not corporial but a physical force to be dealt with. Time happens. You can't hurry it up, you can't slow it down, and you certainly can't go back in time. When God Created time it was pure and holy. With that in mind let's say there are two kinds of time, Heavenly and Earthly. The distinguishing aspect between the two is quite simply, sin. It isn't so much the sun going up and down or clocks that reflect the passage of time on earth (remember He was marking days after he created light and dark, day one, and clocks, well, God didn't have a clock.) it is the decay of things on earth ,a result of sin, that marks the passage of days, months, years, seasons... In Heaven sin does not exist, however time does but there is no decay things remain pure, holy, and intact, therefore eternal, time without decay is eternal.
ReplyDeleteSo that leaves Hell, the final residence of sin and death. What about hell? As I see it Hell is the one place time does not exist. The decay of sin is at it's max it does not get worse but the suffering and punishment, the gnashing of teeth never ends, there is no passage of time. It is constant and eternal torture at its worst, separation from God.
So here are my three views of time. One pure and holy and eternal, one corrupt and decaying, and the third timeless torture and without further decay, decadence to be sure, but also eternal.
So you might say I disagree with you on what time is, Heaven as timeless, and Hell nothing but time. However, I hope you can see my reasoning. Love in Christ Jesus, Cindy